Managing IP is part of the Delinian Group, Delinian Limited, 4 Bouverie Street, London, EC4Y 8AX, Registered in England & Wales, Company number 00954730
Copyright © Delinian Limited and its affiliated companies 2023

Accessibility | Terms of Use | Privacy Policy | Modern Slavery Statement

Unwired Planet is “massive time and money saver”, say telecoms and car companies

social media 168

Large telecoms companies say the UK Court of Appeal’s decision that global licences for SEPs can be FRAND streamlines licensing while automotive firms believe it helps benchmark component prices. But more still needs to be clarified

social media 168

Large telecommunications and automotive companies have told Managing IP that they are pleased by the recent Unwired Planet v Huawei judgement because it will streamline licensing and give price certainty in negotiating licences for standard essential patents (SEPs).

In-house sources in telecoms companies argue that while it has not solved every problem around licensing SEPs by fair, reasonable and non-discriminatory (FRAND) terms, the UK Court of Appeal’s decision that global licences are FRAND will help stifle licensee delay tactics.

“The decision is a practical solution rather than a legal one and will be a massive time and money saver that will make life so much easier,” says the head of IP at a Germany-based telecoms company.

An end to “stalling tactics”?

The head of litigation at a European telecoms company adds: “We have seen too many stalling tactics by the potential licensees and it was good that the court put down a price stamp and said if that is not accepted then the company would be faced with an injunction.”

”The decision is a practical solution rather than a legal one and will be a massive time and money saver that will make life so much easier”

He adds that his firm has many SEPs that are used by numerous companies and this judgment puts another weapon in their arsenal to give them the best chance of getting a licence sorted quickly and securing royalties.

“We think about approaches such as dragging infringers into global FRAND arbitration or suing them in Germany where we can get injunctions in the hopes that that brings them to the table,” he says. “This UK ruling gives us another good option.”

Sources from automotive companies say the decision has helped give them price certainty in the market by setting a benchmark on how much communications components should costs. The chief licensing officer at a Germany-based car manufacturer points out that however the Court of Appeal’s decision is interpreted, a similar figure is reached.

“We still do not know what the stack will cost in the end for a car or for the communications components, but this provides a good benchmark from where you can start and we have good arguments that it can never be higher,” he says.

He adds that if you take the Avanci proposal, the Unwired Planet judgment and Judge Selna’s FRAND decision from the US courts – which value communications components at below of equal to $15, $20 and $18 respectively – you see a picture developing.

“Whether it ends up being $12 or $18 can now be decided by an arbitration panel or court,” he says.

These reactions come after the Court of Appeal ruled that FRAND obligations can be met if an SEP owner offers a worldwide licence, and that an implementer that refuses to take such a licence could be subject to an injunction to prevent further patent infringement.

“This UK ruling gives us another good option”

The judgment also confirmed that a UK judge can set a global FRAND rate when two parties cannot agree on one and set a clear methodology for establishing such a rate.

Lord Kitchin said it would be "wholly impractical" and not fair or reasonable for SEP owners to have to negotiate patent licences country by country, confirming Mr Justice Birss’s opinion that such an expectation would be "madness".

Huawei has requested to appeal the decision to the Supreme Court, which will likely accept, but telecoms sources are confident that the same outcome will be reached. The head of IP adds that his company is looking forward to seeing whether the ruling will gain international acceptance.

Further to go

The head of IP adds that there are finer details from this judgment that may need to be discussed and resolved, such as different scopes of protection in different countries.

“How is that factored into the international arrangement?” he asks. The UK, for example, may have a narrower scope of protection than other jurisdictions, and it is uncertain whether its courts might calculate that fact into licence fees.

He adds that an argument could be made for national licences from other types of business that do not have a global reach and their licensing strategies may be incompatible with worldwide agreements.

“For a small telecoms company, this kind of agreement is only good if our suppliers have signed global licences for the technologies”

The counsel for a France-based telecoms company agrees, and adds that a global licence would make matters complicated for his business.

“For a small telecoms company, this kind of agreement is only good if our suppliers have signed global licences for the technologies - but at the moment, they’re missing patents and the SEP owners are choosing to sue us instead of our suppliers.”

He adds that some organisations, including patent trolls, will force companies to sign global agreements on the basis of patents that the company is unaware have been used in off-the-shelf products.

The chief licensing officer at a Germany-based car manufacturer also argues that when it comes to connected technologies, such as driverless cars or the Internet of Things (IoT), the decision will make life harder because supply chain levels in the automotive industry are very different to those telecommunications industry.

“We have three of four levels of suppliers in our chain, which is not the case with smartphones where you have the sim set and smartphone manufacturer and not much in between,” he says.

The understanding, he adds, is that exhaustion issues and other rights mean the value of a licence needs to cover the value of the entire supply chain. But that raises the question of who in the supply chain should take a global licence and how you value the licence for that entire supply chain.

“If you think about 5G when we will have larger spread of tech, there will be many more modules with different capabilities and need different patents and royalties will be different,” he says.

Furthermore, hundreds or thousands of SMEs will be producing products for the IoT and few will have the technical expertise, patent or IPR knowledge to really negotiate these licence agreements - and it is going to be a nightmare if we do not find a way of streamlining these licensing costs.”

Clearly, the Unwired Planet decision has done a lot to calm some company’s nerves when it comes to licensing and tech prices – but there’s still some way to go before all the kinks are ironed out and companies have accepted the changes. 

more from across site and ros bottom lb

More from across our site

Cyril Amarchand Mangaldas has hired former Anand & Anand partner Swati Sharma and hopes to compete with specialist IP firms
Rapporteur-Judge András Kupecz ruled that education and training weren’t legitimate reasons for a member of the public to access documents
Searches for comparison prior art will be a little easier, but practitioners will have to put more thought into claim construction and design patent titles
The Helsinki local division rejected AIM Sport’s request for a preliminary injunction in a dispute with rival Supponor
We provide a rundown of Managing IP’s news and analysis coverage from the week, and review what’s been happening elsewhere in IP
The FTC’s plans to scrutinise improperly listed Orange Book patents could make these listings more important in litigation, but firms should be looking at this anyway
Counsel at Debevoise & Plimpton explain how they helped food delivery business Grubhub avoid a preliminary injunction at the Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit
European lawyers tell Managing IP how the legal market is reacting to the first few months of the UPC and why cases are set to take off
The ban could be extended or cancelled, depending on whether Judge Pauline Newman cooperates with an investigation, the Judicial Council of the Federal Circuit stated
Sources say some China-based lawyers are prepared to take large pay cuts to join stable practices, but most firms are sceptical about new hires